Moderators Stif Posted November 25, 2018 Moderators Share Posted November 25, 2018 One thing is more than certain, it's not working the way it is. For a chat of the level of Trade, an active and committed manager is needed, who has enough time for this responsibility and for its users. Vale doing her best or not, it's not enough. If this does not change, we will continue to have problems unceasingly. And i don't think being a reseller should be a hindrance to running a trade chat, being quoted to such a position demonstrates that the person is reliable enough to know how to separate these two things. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bot Service Providers Nezhit Posted November 25, 2018 Bot Service Providers Share Posted November 25, 2018 Even a suggestion was ignored... 1 year and still same, inactivity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Members Marek Posted November 25, 2018 Advanced Members Share Posted November 25, 2018 I think that xat trade should have two main owners and not just one! as it is in other chats. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Members Mario Posted November 25, 2018 Advanced Members Share Posted November 25, 2018 I would say this is way too much drama over something that has been going on for a long time.There were threads opened for this before and admins agreed vale was still suitable to run trade even though she would be unable to attend at all times. The whole point of having a main owner is to control the staff from abusing their power and ofc decide decent ones to take care of the chat.Being owner it means you had to take care of bans , staff and all that kind of stuff. Yet after months and months deciding you don't like being under control after vale asks to be informed on whats going on and you snap. The funny thing is that you have too much power dragging the entire trade kids down with you to support your case. I would suggest for a co main to help run the chat with vale. I've seen Sydno and Echo being suggested a few times and i'll say adding someone inexperienced with running a " trade " chat would make things worse. The best option would be adding Cupim ( if he agrees to that ) as he is the most experienced one over the years and doesn't need to proof for that , not to mention he does not get influenced by the circle of friendship. Echo and Sydno are way too close to Bryan which makes it easier for him to control everything in trade which would be the same thing as adding him as main. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteers Popular Post Crow Posted November 25, 2018 Volunteers Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2018 As others have said, we've had the same pattern three or four times now. Vale is inactive Contributors or others will discuss adding a co-main or changing things Vale appears from nowhere and shuts down the discussions, reassuring everyone Vale is inactive Repeat, etc. I'm a huge fan of Vale but something needs to change somewhere. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteers Popular Post Sydno Posted November 25, 2018 Volunteers Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2018 12 minutes ago, Mario said: I've seen Sydno and Echo being suggested a few times and i'll say adding someone inexperienced with running a " trade " chat would make things worse. Not sure where you heard that? I guess someone asking for professionalism has not been very professional. 14 minutes ago, Mario said: Echo and Sydno are way too close to Bryan which makes it easier for him to control everything That's pretty wrong. I've talked to Bryan a few times but we are not particularly "friends". For instance, we've been much more friends together, Mario, that I have been with Bryan. Bryan and I simply have a professional relationship. Nonetheless, I think I'm mature enough not to be controlled by whoever. Not disagreeing with someone doesn't mean you are controlled by them, you know that pretty well too. Last but not least, being the main owner of such an important chat doesn't mean overseeing things once in a trimester and picking someone to do your job without recognizing them. I personally find it pretty disrespectful that one's hide behind real life or volunteers duties. We all have a real life and other issues to deal with, but one should hand over their responsibilities when it becomes apparent they don't have any more time for it. I am very sorry to the xat community for watching all this drama. This could have been handled way better but it seems the showdown was inevitable. I'm very sad this had to happen on the public scene. 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bot Service Providers Nezhit Posted November 25, 2018 Bot Service Providers Share Posted November 25, 2018 (edited) Easy fix, steps: Make him co main owner; Contributors, resellers and volunteers may need to stop fighting; Other volunteers need to put attention to inactive "ticket volunteer", she is inactive, but you can report in your private forum section "Volunteers". "The voice of the people is the voice of God". Edited November 25, 2018 by Laming 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Members Luig Posted November 25, 2018 Advanced Members Share Posted November 25, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Laming said: Easy fix, steps: Make him co main owner; Contributors, resellers and volunteers may need to stop fighting; Other volunteers need to put attention to inactive "ticket volunteer", she is inactive, but you can report in your private forum section "Volunteers". "The voice of the people is the voice of God". 4. This thread should be closed. I believe they're already having a discuss about that theme in the private section. We don't need more people being judged on this post. Edited November 25, 2018 by Luig 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiki Translators Maxo Posted November 25, 2018 Wiki Translators Share Posted November 25, 2018 in general i think every officiel xat room should have 2 main owners at least one of them should be present in the chat when the other is busy for exemple In order to maintain the stability of the chat and avoid problems, owners does a good job but i think their presence in the chat room is not enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Members Mario Posted November 25, 2018 Advanced Members Share Posted November 25, 2018 30 minutes ago, Sydno said: Not sure where you heard that? I guess someone asking for professionalism has not been very professional. People talk , all over xat , there is nothing new. 30 minutes ago, Sydno said: I'm mature enough not to be controlled by whoever I have no doubt about that yet , you lack experience running such a chat compared to " Cupim " . 31 minutes ago, Sydno said: Not disagreeing with someone doesn't mean you are controlled by them, you know that pretty well too. You have no idea do you ? 32 minutes ago, Sydno said: Last but not least, being the main owner of such an important chat doesn't mean overseeing things once in a trimester and picking someone to do your job without recognizing them What ? make sure you know the facts before talking ? 32 minutes ago, Sydno said: We all have a real life and other issues to deal with, but one should hand over their responsibilities when it becomes apparent they don't have any more time for it. You should remember it is called " volunteering " even though she still keeps doing it even after admins recognized she was unable to attend 24/7. You cannot expect someone to put their entire life on xat and hide in the shadows. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteers Popular Post Sydno Posted November 25, 2018 Volunteers Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2018 After reading @Luig comment, I decided to close this thread. We have heard Trade staff inquiries, we are aware of the issues the chat is going through and Admin will come up with a solution in the upcoming days. I'm pretty sure the users who opened the thread wanted in no manner this thread to be a public drama made of ad hominem attacks. We collectively failed to listen to one another and the personal interests should not dictate the pace of xat. Thank you for your input, everyone. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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