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    "OFFLINE" Function Power

    in Suggestions

    Posted

    I suggested this many years ago and there was a lengthy debate about this in the contributors group as well which stayed dormant since I last looked at it. I suggested it directly to admins as I think it should have been introduced years ago as other social media channels have this option of not showing as being online or active. 

     

    Some people were in agreement but a lot of others weren't as well with valid points such as "if you do not want to talk with anyone, just click sign out".

     

    If there is still demand for it then I think it should be added but seeming we lasted all these years without it and just using nopc/nopm/ignore I don't think we will see it added mind. 

     

    If I was still a contributor I would still push for it but maybe another member in the Contributor forum could relight the debate?

     

    Disclaimer -Appear offline debate was public information due to the contributor monthly logs from years ago, I am just resurfacing it for transparency. :) 

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    Xavi Update - Community Desings

    in Suggestions

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    Hey, 

     

    I was just wondering and not sure if it's been suggested before but I would like to see an improvement for xavi where members of the community could share there designs with others to use or take another design another member has created. I think this would increase the popularity of the power, give the community a new thing to work on. It would be extremely useful for the different seasons across the year such as Easter, Halloween & Christmas and possibly even allow users to run completions. 

     

    It could also have a popular tab on the xavi app with users up voting, down voting (if deemed fit), most downloaded, most used, new designs filers and more. 

     

    Thoughts?

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    Contributor Monthly Log - January 2022

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    dark2-

     

    At the beginning of a new month, someone from the Contributor group will post a topic providing a summary for discussions that were discussed in the Contributor section during the previous month. This is to allow the community to be more informed and have a better understanding of the Contributor group. If you have any concerns or suggestions that you would like to be brought to the attention of the Contributor group, feel free to message any of the Contributors.

     

    You can find our previous logs here.

     

    Ongoing Discussions

    These topics are currently ongoing. If you would like to offer feedback and/or suggestions, feel free to send me a message, and I'd be happy to convey it to the rest of the group. You can also post a comment if you would like to offer feedback and/or suggestions.

     

    Live streaming function

    Spoiler

    A contributor raised a suggestion to introduce a new video chat function on xat, which may support live streaming. This function could be open to everyone or just for hosting special events. Older users of xat may even remember a live concert that was held on xat many years ago using a similar feature. The live streams could be great fun and attract lots of interest, although there are potential downsides too, which were also discussed.

     

    Annual xat feedback form

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    The discussion remains ongoing about user feedback, following xLaming's topic in the Suggestions section. The idea is to potentially create a survey to obtain thoughts and opinions about xat and then analyze statistics from the results and draw conclusions from them. There are no updates from last month.

     

    Help chats on auto-promotion

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    Our discussion continues about whether all help chats should be eligible for auto-promotion, or if all help chats should be removed from auto-promotion. This change would be for fairness reasons, although one Contributor suggested communities should be evaluated on a case-by-case basis. Points have also been raised that only lobbies should be auto-promoted and that help chats don't need to be.

     

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    New pawn for influencers

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    53 minutes ago, Flake said:

     

    you're completely neglecting the positives that a verification system would be providing for staff purely on the premise that it isn't necessary, when you can be using the exact same reasoning to argue that the cyan pawn isn't necessary for celebrities

     

    sure, it isn't absolutely necessary addition, but that isn't an argument for it not being a good addition. i've noticed on this site a lot of people including the devs have the mindset of 'if it's not necessary (or doesn't have clear cut monetary value in the case of devs), it shouldn't be an addition' with regards to the functionality and features of this site, which is probably why this site is currently incredibly stagnant and not nearly as popular as it used to be. before, it very much felt like a lot of things weren't being done out of necessity or clear cut monetary gain, but were done because it would be cool or have a positive impact in some way. just a thought

     

    also, i would make an educated guess that a good majority of the users on xat don't use the forum and don't look at the xat wiki as much as you think they do. I've been an involved active user for 10+ years and even i dont know who the staff are a lot of the time, so i think you're heavily overestimating the userbase's knowledge in this regard, especially with respect to the people who would be affected by the issues that a verification system would be attempting to mitigate (victims of scams, power abuse, and other malicious things that can come about via staff impersonation)

     

    what i do agree with though is that sky pawn being given to both influencers and xat staff would conflate the two things and unnecessarily make things more confusing than it needs to be; famous/influential people and xat staff should have their own separate forms of verification. and i also agree that there's no reason to not extend cyan pawn to "influencers", especially given how cyan pawn in it's current state is essentially redundant because the requirements for it are too stringent (there's only like 1 person who even somewhat uses the site who currently has it)

    I am not against the idea of a verification system for volunteers for example but the way we have gone from one extreme of little suggestion for vols being "on xat volunteer" being denied to a fancy new pawn being announced is crazy. The skyblue pawn I don't think should be a thing and the cyan pawn being rebranded as a verified symbol for celebrates and influencers otherwise as you said its a dead pawn just sitting around waiting for something that wont happen which is new celebrities coming to xat.

     

    There has been many suggestions over the years with a special pawn being used for volunteers such as the yellow pawn, tick next to their name and the "on xat volunteer" but I hear excuses that these weren't required and admins didnt want special treatment for volunteers on live chats. I personally think the "on xat volunteer" feature would work great and the best way to verify a volunteer without the needs for a exclusive pawn. I believe this is also why the volunteer emeriti title was removed for past volunteers a few years back as it was deemed unnecessarily.

     

    while I am happy to see a verified system introduced for volunteers for sensitive matters and to prevent scams etc I dont think its necessarily to include smiley makers, game makers etc on this as the wiki and forum provide enough verification for these users and most requests and topics are often discussed on the forum anyway so dont think its useful to make this a thing on live chat. 

     

    in terms of cyan pawn/sky pawn for game makers etc this was given to users who made the recent game for a short period of time when the power was first released and i defended the status of the cyan pawn back then along with others not agreeing the cyan pawn should be used in that way. its time for the cyan pawn to have purpose again as its been a standing around with no real value due no one being worthy of the celebrity title. 

     

    I know you have been with the site for 10+ years from back in the ec2 days. i am glad you have raised your concerns and respect your views. I just hope all the views that people have made are taking into consideration before this new pawn is released into the community. 

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    New pawn for influencers

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    Just wanted to way in on the subject about cyan/sky pawn. Haven't read all responses only the first few.

     

    Over the years I have always flighted the corner of the cyan pawn being for celebrities only and even people like techrax I didn't agree with getting it as it seems anyone with a big following is counted as a celebrity these days. I see the cyan pawn for people who are actors, singers etc not just anyone that can pick up a camera and record anything and people will subscribe/follow. However in todays age of things celebrities aren't the most popular people with the world of social media platforms like TikTok, Instagram and YouTube and people becoming influencers daily and I do feel like this needs to be addressed on xat somehow.

     

    If xat is serious about labelling these types of people now and making them stand out on live chats then I think the cyan pawn should really be the way these people are verified on xat. These are also going to be live accounts that people use to talk with on chats rather than someone looking for a influencers profile to follow such as twitter with the blue tick. xat doesn't have profile pages that allow users to follow them so I think this is the best way to label influencers when they enter a live chat room is with the cyan pawn. 

     

    Sky pawn is a silly idea to make things more complicated than they need to be in terms of labelling between celebrities and influencers and even wanna be celebrities that may go power crazy and think they have authority because of certain status. 

     

    Game makers, ticket volunteers and who ever else getting this pawn? absolutely unnecessarily to do this and defeats the idea of the influencers status., plus we have survived this long without special treatment on chats for these titles over 10+ years. Verified symbol for people in chat so they know who volunteers, smiley makers are etc? They are labelled on the wiki, special titles on the forum etc and lets be real xat community is small but loyal and everyone knows everyone's roles anyway so unless the community grows I think this is pointless.

     

    Sky pawn given out influencers without any minimum following? - what makes them an influencer if they have a small following? 1k followers, 10k followers and even 100k followers means nothing these days unlike they did back in the day.  I understand each application will go through some sort of checklist but there needs to be some ground rules from some with pure talent with 100k followers vs a meme page, reaction youtube channel with the same following can't be compared if they have the same following. If people really wanted to they can get lots of followers easily with little effort and no talent and makes them an influencer? I just hope each case is looked at genuinely and how the influencer pawn/title will be used and not just for a popular contest. 

     

    Main view points:

    cyan pawn be rebranded to suit a new generation and be used as a verified tool to genuine accounts that can benefit from it.

    sky pawn to be scrapped and not to be given out to the xat users with titles such smiley makers, vols, game makers and wanna be influencers that dont truly require a verified symbol. 

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    Voice of staff trade

    in Suggestions

    Posted

    14 minutes ago, Vale said:

     

    @Echoplease stay in your lane dont talk about vols stuffs here if i close tickets or not is not even ur problem when i used to close 400-600 tickets in week you weren't even here

    if i start to talk about my work i'll have to write a book and just because i dont go around to talk to vols doesnt mean i don't care i talk only if needed and that's good so,

    anyway as vol try be more professional dont put ur nose everywhere dont go around talk nosense =) 

    Being inactive for like a year and not doing tickets is another story but if you are trying to hide behind this excuse then I am not having it. It don't matter if you used to do 100 tickets or 400 tickets a week the problem is you don't do any at all for the past year. You have only took part in one topic since I become volunteer and that was conflict as well. Try to be more professional? I am professional and pushing for change on something which should have been sorted out months and months ago. Face it vale you only magically become active again when your position is threatened. We have had 3 threads about this on the contributors section and each time you have been given a chance to become more active. This thread is dedicated to th users that cannot voice their views within the contributors group. I won't commnt anymore on this thread as everything I needed has been said but I hope for the best outcome for the trade staff and chat itself.

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    Voice of staff trade

    in Suggestions

    Posted

    1 minute ago, Anas said:

    Vale do all what she can to be active. You know that she busy with other xat stuff like tickets .. 

     

    Bryan is always with xattrade and he manage it very well. 

    I think there is another reason and thats come from @Admin

     

    Vale hasn't touched tickets for like a year and hardly keeps in contact with the volunteer team.

    Bryan is walking out as he is fed up with the way the chat is being operated and to try and get some sort of action taken for the greater good of the chat and it seems over trade staff are also going to follow. 

    I don't think you know the full picture here as this has been ongoing for far to long and things I cannot go into but do note that vale has been given plenty of chances to change and to become more active. 

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    Voice of staff trade

    in Suggestions

    Posted

    They want a change of main ownership, they are fed up with Vale being inactive for months and months and having very little communication. 

     

    I don't blame them for walking out on a chat manager that doesn't support them. This has been an on-going issue with far to long with no appropriate fix.

     

    We have seen discussion after discussion regarding this matter with little change taking place. 

     

    Is it time for a change of ownership and for a main owner that will help support @Addict and the rest of the trade staff.

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    Auth lost

    in General Support

    Posted

    A ticket has been opened for you regarding the issue you are having.

     

    Please check your inbox for a email from info@xat.com and click the link inside to reply to the ticket created for you.

     

    I will now close this thread.

     

    Thank You! 

    Wallet Power

    in Suggestions

    Posted

    What on earth made you suggest this? Do you seriously want to go around spending your own xats just to see how much loot users have. We have show for a reason and this goes completely against users privacy.

    Definitively not..

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    Locked out of Account [Auth Problem]

    in General Support

    Posted · Edited by Echo
    correcting answer

    A ticket has been opened for you as you were unable to open one yourself.

    Please click the link in the email that was sent to you and reply to the questions we have asked.

    A volunteer will then reply as soon as possible to help you resolve your issue.

    Thank you.

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